




- 1–2 Bedrooms
- $1,194-$1,774 Pricing
- 600–1,000 Square Feet
About Palencia
83 acres of lush green space, 12 lakes, and peaceful conservation views right in the heart of Carrollwood. Every home includes a private screened in patio with exterior storage, upgraded kitchens with black appliances, and spacious closets throughout. First floor homes feature vinyl wood flooring, while upper levels include carpet with vinyl in wet areas. Residents enjoy the flexibility to bring their own washer and dryer or rent a set. The community features two sparkling pools, a fitness center, lighted tennis courts, a lighted pickle ball court, and onsite laundry facilities. Palencia is also pet friendly with no monthly pet rent, offering significant savings. Located within walking distance to shops, grocery stores, and public transit and minutes from Northdale, Citrus Park, Odessa, Lutz, USF, HCC, and Tampa International Airport. Palencia combines nature, convenience, and value. Top rated schools including Claywell Elementary, Ben Hill Middle, and Gaither High School.
Palencia is located in the Northdale Neighborhood and 33618 Zip code of Tampa, FL. This community is professionally managed by Asset Living
Unique Features and Amenities
- 24-hour Maintenance Emergency
- Beautiful Lakes
- Built-in Microwave
- Easy Access to Major Highways
- Full Size Washer Dryer Connection
- Gazebo
- Grill Stations
- Lake and Pool Views
- Lighted Tennis Courts
- Model Home to View
- On Line Rent Payment
- Parking
- Pet Friendly Community
- Pickleball Court
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Two Clothes Care Centers
- Two Sparkling Pools
Property Contact Info

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- Agency:
- Vendor Logo:
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- Call Us:
- (786) 589-8607
- Disclaimer:
Office Hours
| Monday | 9:00 am–5:30 pm |
| Tuesday | 9:00 am–5:30 pm |
| Wednesday | 9:00 am–5:30 pm |
| Thursday | 9:00 am–5:30 pm |
| Friday | 9:00 am–5:30 pm |
| Saturday | 10:00 am–5:00 pm |
| Sunday | Closed |
Floorplan Pricing and Availability
Palencia offers 1 to 2 Bedroom apartments starting from $1,194 and having 600–1,000 sq ft. Here is the current pricing and availability:
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1 Bedroom
Barcelona
From $1,194
1 Bed, 1 Bath, 600 sq ftAvailable NowModel Gallery
Floorplans
Availability Details
Price Availability Date Unit Sq Ft View Details $1,194 Available Now 0901 600 $1,209 Available Now 2303 600 $1,389 Available Now 1707 600 Model Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Ceiling Fans
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,194 - $1,419
Current Available Pricing
- $1,194 - $1,389
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit 0901 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Ceiling Fans
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Walk-In Level
Unit 0901 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,194
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,194 - $1,419
Unit 2303 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Ceiling Fans
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Walk-In Level
- Wooded View
Unit 2303 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,209
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,194 - $1,419
Unit 1707 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Ceiling Fans
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
Unit 1707 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,389
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,194 - $1,419
Apartment Model: BarcelonaFrom $1,1941 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 600 sq ftAvailable Now![]()
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Barcelona - Floorplan 2 Apartment Unit: 0901Apartment Model: Barcelona$1,1941 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 600 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 2303Apartment Model: Barcelona$1,2091 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 600 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 1707Apartment Model: Barcelona$1,3891 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 600 sq ftAvailable NowMadrid
From $1,389
1 Bed, 1 Bath, 740 sq ftAvailable NowModel Gallery
Floorplans
Availability Details
Price Availability Date Unit Sq Ft View Details $1,389 Available Now 1310 740 $1,389 September 10, 2026 1321 740 $1,484 October 21, 2026 2406 740 Model Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,389 - $1,524
Current Available Pricing
- $1,389 - $1,484
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit 1310 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 1310 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,389
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,389 - $1,524
Unit 1321 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Other Appliances
- Built-in Microwave
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 1321 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,389
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,389 - $1,524
Unit 2406 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Cable Ready
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 2406 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,484
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,389 - $1,524
Apartment Model: MadridFrom $1,3891 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 740 sq ftAvailable Now![]()
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Madrid - Floorplan 2 Apartment Unit: 1310Apartment Model: Madrid$1,3891 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 740 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 1321Apartment Model: Madrid$1,3891 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 740 sq ftAvailable September 10, 2026Apartment Unit: 2406Apartment Model: Madrid$1,4841 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 740 sq ftAvailable October 21, 20262 Bedrooms
Seville
From $1,459
2 Beds, 2 Baths, 950 sq ftAvailable NowCheapest 2 BedroomThis is the cheapest 2 Bedroom at this PropertyModel Gallery
Floorplans
Availability Details
Price Availability Date Unit Sq Ft View Details $1,459 Available Now 0808 950 $1,539 September 10, 2026 1605 950 $1,664 September 10, 2026 1616 950 Model Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,459 - $1,674
Current Available Pricing
- $1,459 - $1,664
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit 0808 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Water View
Unit 0808 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,459
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit Description
Second-Floor, Water-View.
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,459 - $1,674
Unit 1605 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Framed Mirrors
- High Speed Internet Access
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
Unit 1605 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,539
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,459 - $1,674
Unit 1616 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Framed Mirrors
- Tub/Shower
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Lake View
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
Unit 1616 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,664
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,459 - $1,674
Apartment Model: SevilleFrom $1,4592 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 950 sq ftAvailable Now![]()
Seville - Floorplan 1 ![]()
Seville - Floorplan 2 Apartment Unit: 0808Apartment Model: Seville$1,4592 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 950 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 1605Apartment Model: Seville$1,5392 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 950 sq ftAvailable September 10, 2026Apartment Unit: 1616Apartment Model: Seville$1,6642 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 950 sq ftAvailable September 10, 2026Valencia
From $1,639
2 Beds, 2 Baths, 1000 sq ftAvailable NowLargest 2 BedroomThis is the largest 2 Bedroom at this PropertyModel Gallery
Floorplans
Availability Details
Price Availability Date Unit Sq Ft View Details $1,754 Available Now 1915 1000 $1,639 Available Now 1508 1000 $1,764 Available Now 1407 1000 Model Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Balcony
- Cable Ready
- Heating
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,639 - $1,774
Current Available Pricing
- $1,639 - $1,764
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit 1915 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Balcony
- Cable Ready
- Heating
- High Speed Internet Access
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
- Wooded View
Unit 1915 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,754
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Unit Description
Second-Floor, Back-Facing.
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,639 - $1,774
Unit 1508 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Balcony
- Cable Ready
- Heating
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 1508 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,639
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,639 - $1,774
Unit 1407 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Balcony
- Cable Ready
- Heating
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Views
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Built-in Microwave
- Lake View
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 1407 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,764
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,639 - $1,774
Apartment Model: ValenciaFrom $1,6392 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 1000 sq ftAvailable Now![]()
Valencia - Floorplan 1 ![]()
Valencia - Floorplan 2 Apartment Unit: 1915Apartment Model: Valencia$1,7542 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 1000 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 1508Apartment Model: Valencia$1,6392 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 1000 sq ftAvailable NowApartment Unit: 1407Apartment Model: Valencia$1,7642 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 1000 sq ftAvailable NowGranada
From $1,489
2 Beds, 1 Bath, 850 sq ftAvailable Oct 10Model Gallery
Floorplans
Availability Details
Price Availability Date Unit Sq Ft $1,489 October 10, 2026 0506 850 Unit 0506 Amenities and Features
Features
- Air Conditioning
- Tub/Shower
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
Kitchen
- Dishwasher
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
- Microwave
- Oven
- Pantry
- Refrigerator
Living Space
- Carpet
- Dining Room
- Large Bedrooms
- Linen Closet
- Vinyl Flooring
- Walk-In Closets
Other Appliances
- Built-in Microwave
Outdoor Space
- Patio
Unique Features
- Screened patio/balcony
- Storage Closet
- Top Floor
- Washer/Dryer connection
Unit 0506 Rent and Fees
Unit Price
- $1,489
Deposit
- $500 deposit
Model Rent and Fees
Model Price Range
- $1,489 - $1,614
Apartment Model: GranadaFrom $1,4892 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 850 sq ftAvailable October 10, 2026![]()
Granada - Floorplan 1 ![]()
Granada - Floorplan 2 Apartment Unit: 0506Apartment Model: Granada$1,4892 Bedroom, 1 Bath, 850 sq ftAvailable October 10, 2026
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Property Information
- Renovated In 2018
- 420 Units
- 3 Stories
- Built in 1985
Lease Terms
- 7 - 12 mo
- Short Term Lease Options
Fees and Policies
The fees listed below are community-provided and may exclude utilities or add-ons. All payments are made directly to the property and are non-refundable unless otherwise specified.
Required Fees
One-Time Basics
- Due at Application
- Application Fee Per ApplicantiCharged per applicant.$75.00
- Due at Move-In
- Administrative FeeiFor select apartment homes the Administrative Fee has been waived. Please call for details! Charged per unit.$150.00
Other Fees and Policies
Pet Fees
Pet Policies are Negotiable
- Cat
- One-Time Pet FeeiMax of 2. Charged Per Pet.$400.00
- Dog
- One-Time Pet FeeiMax of 2. Charged Per Pet.$400.00
Non refundable pet fee per apartment home is $400. Our pet friendly apartments welcome most breeds of dogs. However, because certain dogs do not thrive in a community environment, we cannot accommodate the following breeds or mixes: Akita, American Staffordshire Terrier, Bull Terrier, Chow, Doberman, German Shepherd, Husky, Pit Bull, Presa Canario, Rottweiler and Wolf Hybrid. Call for Details.
Non refundable pet fee per apartment home is $400. Our pet friendly apartments welcome most breeds of dogs. However, because certain dogs do not thrive in a community environment, we cannot accommodate the following breeds or mixes: Akita, American Staffordshire Terrier, Bull Terrier, Chow, Doberman, German Shepherd, Husky, Pit Bull, Presa Canario, Rottweiler and Wolf Hybrid. Call for Details.
Max of 2.
Parking Fees
- Surface Lot
- Parking DepositiCharged Per Vehicle.$0.00
Parking Available.
Property Fee Disclaimer: Based on community-supplied data and independent market research. Subject to change without notice. May exclude fees for mandatory or optional services and usage-based utilities.
Features and Amenities
On-Site Services
- Maintenance On Site
- Property Manager On Site
- Trash Pickup Door To Door
- Renters Insurance Program
- Public Transportation
- 24 Hour Access
Community Features
- Walk Up
Outdoor Features
- Grill
- Pond
- Sundeck
Recreation and Fitness
- Hot Tub
- Fitness Center
- Tennis Court
- Pickleball Court
- Playground
- Pool
Interior Features
- Ceiling Fans
- High Speed Internet Access
- Framed Mirrors
- Heating
- Cable Ready
- Washer/Dryer Hookup
- Air Conditioning
- Smoke Free
Kitchen Amenities
- Oven
- Microwave
- Disposal
- Ice Maker
Living Area Features
- Walk In Closets
- Vinyl Flooring
- Carpet
- Large Bedrooms

Map
- Shopping
- Colleges
- Grocery
- Medical

Map
Getting Around
60 / 100 Moderately walkable
10 / 100 Minimal public transit
40 / 100 Fairly bikeable
80 / 100 Very car friendly
Getting to Know the Area
70 / 100 Restaurants
40 / 100 Cafes
70 / 100 Nightlife
70 / 100 Shopping
50 / 100 Parks
100 / 100 Noise Level
Frequently Asked Questions about Palencia
Where is Palencia located?
Palencia is located at 3450 Palencia Dr near the Northdale area of Tampa, FL
What is the current rent range at Palencia?
1 Bedroom to 2 Bedroom Apartments at Palencia currently range from $1,194 to $1,774
When is the leasing office open?
- The office Hours for Palencia are
- Monday 9:00 am–5:30 pm
- Tuesday 9:00 am–5:30 pm
- Wednesday 9:00 am–5:30 pm
- Thursday 9:00 am–5:30 pm
- Friday 9:00 am–5:30 pm
- Saturday 10:00 am–5:00 pm
- Sunday Closed
Are pets allowed?
Call us today to find out our pet policy and if we allow pets
Renters Reviews and Ratings
Well, I tired to like it here.
Bad professionalism
very satisfied
Do your research!!
This place is perceptive as beautiful but really TRASHY
not bad for the money
Carrollwood, Tampa FL
Best deal in Tampa
Our one bedroom
Great location, not so great management
Nearby Schools
Claywell Elementary School
Gaither High School
Hill Middle School
About GreatSchools Data on ApartmentHomeLiving.com.
Points of Interest
Time and distance from Palencia.
Arts Museums and Landmarks
Big Box and Retail
Walmart
Target
Walgreens
Colleges and Universities
University of South Florida at Tampa - Tampa Campus
Hillsborough Community College - Dale Mabry Campus
Hillsborough Community College - Ybor City Campus
Groceries
Whole Foods
Publix
Winn Dixie
Hospitals
Restaurants and Dining
Shopping Centers
Palencia has 5 shopping centers within 0.6 miles.
Nearby Neighborhoods
Rental Price Ranges in the Area
| Bedroom | Average Rent | Cheapest Rent | Highest Rent |
|---|---|---|---|
| Tampa Studio Apartments | $1,803 | $735 | $4,950 |
| Tampa 1 Bedroom Apartments | $1,798 | $795 | $6,307 |
| Tampa 2 Bedroom Apartments | $2,146 | $619 | $6,903 |
| Tampa 3 Bedroom Apartments | $2,553 | $639 | $10,000+ |
| Tampa 4 Bedroom Apartments | $1,932 | $509 | $10,000+ |
| Tampa 5 Bedroom Apartments | $2,670 | $1,020 | $5,913 |
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Max of 2.